Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/SunDown Commentshttps://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/SunDown?atomcommentsDWiki2010-02-25T17:57:18ZRecent comments in Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/SunDown.By Chris Siebenmann on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:be8322bd40cf08691188e0d2abb8ea27bf13aaccChris Siebenmann<div class="wikitext"><p>Whoops, thank you for noticing that; I've corrected Andy Bechtolsheim's
name now. (It's an embarrassing mistake to make; I even checked Wikipedia
to make sure I had his name right, but apparently didn't notice that, well,
I didn't.)</p>
</div>2010-02-25T17:57:18ZFrom 144.96.100.35 on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:87211a425d050f7f868ba5d165ef61e5ef403cc5From 144.96.100.35<div class="wikitext"><p>Bechtolsheim, not Bechtolstein</p>
</div>2010-02-25T16:35:35ZFrom 38.110.6.187 on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:37e00cb19748778d3a046bb1f6075c94217e1289From 38.110.6.187<div class="wikitext"><blockquote><p>(The good news is that the torch of Unix has not been extinguished; that passed long ago to the free Unixes (among which I include Linux).)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Not to be a fanboy, but Apple became the number one seller of UNIX workstations a while ago.</p>
<p>Quartz may not be Display Postscript and Aqua may not be CDE, but Mac OS X is a bona fide UNIX.</p>
<p>--</p>
<pre>
Jordi Bunster
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</div>2010-02-25T16:13:53ZFrom 192.251.226.206 on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:e2ec916822e2b88f99a942281574748e2af87271From 192.251.226.206<div class="wikitext"><p>I'm glad to see them gone. They represent a bastardization of the Unix philosophy and numerous attempts to co-opt it by various hardware manufacturers who realized that creating a "Unix-like" environment was easy. Even easier was turning it into a system that completely obscured the original intents.</p>
<p>I suggest going back and reading what you can find about Unix before it escaped from AT&T and then comparing it to what you've seen coming out of Sun and others during "Unix wars". There is a HUGE difference. </p>
<p>By the way, I am really impressed with Sun, DEC, SGI, etc. in terms of their hardware, but they really failed to understand the software lessons that everyone should have learned in the 60s and 70s that have been more or less lost to time and out of print books and papers these days...</p>
</div>2010-02-25T11:25:07ZBy Chris Siebenmann on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:1afa5cbd635dad30d55117ced0177a89fc3bdfd5Chris Siebenmann<div class="wikitext"><p>Yeah, Oracle has made it very clear that they haven't just bought Sun,
they've absorbed it.</p>
</div>2010-02-22T19:01:17ZBy nothings on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:538d37d66cc7833450502015d1892afe66b2634bnothings<div class="wikitext"><p>>sun.com started redirecting to Oracle's website</p>
<p>Oh, I had no idea. Yeah, I can see that.</p>
<p>-nothings</p>
</div>2010-02-22T14:59:26ZBy Chris Siebenmann on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:040fae270090d0534c4140ba53325ad7f81da919Chris Siebenmann<div class="wikitext"><p>The honest answer about what triggered this is that I'm a slow entry
writer. I started thinking about this when the Sun/Oracle deal closed
on January 27th and sun.com started redirecting to Oracle's website,
but it's taken until now to actually produce an entry on it.</p>
<p>Perhaps I should have said 'application software company' (although
Oracle isn't exactly an application, really). To me, there's a fairly
large difference between an operating system company and a company that
doesn't have operating systems as one of its primary focuses.</p>
<p>(There's an argument that Sun itself hasn't really been a Unix company
for years, but my image of Sun was primarily set back when I knew them
as the cool, admirable Unix vendor.)</p>
</div>2010-02-22T06:59:53ZBy nothings on /blog/solaris/SunDowntag:CSpace:blog/solaris/SunDown:5cfb2147fb31d141fad0d636fbea44a4523e694fnothings<div class="wikitext"><p>Did anything in particular trigger this?</p>
<p>It seems odd to say "what pieces of it survive are parts of a software company", when the crowning achievement of you choose to characterize the original by in the previous sentence is NFS, which surely is software itself.</p>
<p>- nothings</p>
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