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Please stop the Python 2 security scaremongering

Let's start with Aaron Meurer's Moving Away from Python 2 in which I read, in passing:

  • Python 2.7 support ends in 2020. That means all updates, including security updates. For all intents and purposes, Python 2.7 becomes an insecure language to use at that point in time.

There is no nice way to put it: this is security scaremongering.

It is security scaremongering for three good reasons. First, by 2020 Python 2.7 is very likely to be an extremely stable piece of code that has already been picked over heavily for security issues. Even today Python 2.7 security issues are fairly rare, and we still have four more years for people to apply steadily improving analysis and fuzzing tools to Python 2.7 to find anything left. As such, the practical odds that people will find any significant security issues in Python 2.7 after it stops being supported seems fairly low.

Second, it is not as if Python 2.7 will be unsupported in 2020. Oh, sure, the main Python team will not support it, but there are plenty of OS vendors (especially Linux vendors) that either do have or likely will have supported OS versions with officially supported Python 2.7 versions. These vendors themselves are going to fix any security issues found in 2.7. As 2020 approaches, it's very likely that you'll be using a vendor version of 2.7 and so be covered by their security teams. If you're building 2.7 yourself, well, you can copy their work.

(By the way, this means that a bunch of security teams have a good motive to fuzz and attack Python 2.7 now, while the Python core team will still fix any problems they find.)

Finally, a potentially significant amount of Python code is not even running in a security sensitive setting in the first place. If your Python code is processing trusted input in a trusted environment, any potential security issues in Python 2.7 are basically irrelevant. Not all Python code is running websites, to put it one way.

To imply that using Python 2.7 after support ends in 2020 will immediately endanger people is scaremongering. The reality is that it's extremely likely that Python 2.7 after 2020 will be just as secure and stable as it was before 2020, and it's very likely that any issues found after 2020 will be promptly fixed by OS vendors.

(A much more likely security issue with Python 2.7 even before 2020 is framework, library, and package authors abandoning all support for 2.7 versions of their code. If Django is no longer getting security fixes on 2.7, it doesn't really matter that the CPython interpreter itself is still secure.)

By the way, I'm entirely neglecting alternate Python implementations here. These have historically targeted Python 2, not Python 3, and their status of supporting Python 3 (only) is often what you could call 'uncertain'. It seems entirely possible that, say, PyPy might wind up supporting Python 2.7.x well after the main CPython team drops support for it, and of course PyPy would likely fix any security issues that were uncovered in their implementation.

Sidebar: Vendor support periods and Python 2.7

In already released Linux distributions, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS has just been released with Python 2.7.11; it will be supported for five years, until April 2021 or so. Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 (and CentOS 7) has Python 2.7 and will be supported until midway through 2024 (cf).

(Which version of Python 2.7 RHEL 7 has is sort of up in the air. It is officially '2.7.5', but it has additional RHEL patches and RHEL does backport security fixes as needed and so on.)

In future releases, it seems pretty likely that Ubuntu will release 18.04 LTS in April 2018, it will come with a fully supported Python 2.7, and be supported for five years, through 2023. Red Hat will probably release a new version of RHEL before 2020, will likely include Python 2.7, and if so will be supporting it for ten years from the release, which will take practical 2.7 support well into the late 2020s.

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