My new Linux home machine for 2018

March 31, 2018

Back in the fall I planned out a new home machine and then various things happened, especially Meltdown and Spectre (which I feel made it not a great time to get a new CPU) but also my natural inertia. This inertia sort of persisted despite a near miss scare, but in the end I wound up losing confidence in my current (now old) home machine and just wanting to get things over with, so I bit the bullet and got a new home machine (and then I wound up with questions on its graphics).

(There will be better CPUs in the future that probably get real performance boosts from hardware fixes for Meltdown and Spectre, but there are always better CPUs in the future. And on my home machine, I'm willing to run with the kernel mitigations turned off if I feel strongly enough about it.)

The parts list for my new machine is substantially the same as my initial plans, but I made a few changes and indulgences. Here's the parts list for my future reference, if nothing else:

Intel Core i7-8700K
This is the big change from my initial plans, where I'd picked the i7-8700. It's an indulgence, but I felt like it and using an overclocking capable CPU did eliminate most of my concerns over high-speed DDR4 memory. I'm not overclocking the 8700K because, well, I don't. After I didn't run into any TDP issues with my work machine and its 95W TDP Ryzen, I decided that I didn't have any concerns with the 8700K's 95W TDP either.

(My concerns about the TDP difference between the 8700K and the 8700 turn out to be overblown, but that's going to be another entry.)

Asus PRIME Z370-A motherboard
I saw no reason to change my initial choice (and it turns out Phoronix was quite positive about it too, which I only found out about later). The RGB LEDs are kind of amusing and they even show a little bit through the some air vents on the case (especially in the dark).

2x 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3000 CL15 RAM
I can't remember if the G.Skill DDR4-2666 modules were out of stock at the exact point I was putting in my order, but they certainly had been earlier (when I assembled the parts list at the vendor I was going to use), and in the end I decided I was willing to pay the slightly higher cost of DDR4-3000 RAM just as an indulgence.

(Looking at the vendor I used, the current price difference is $4 Canadian.)

I opted not to try to go faster than DDR4-3000 because the RAM modules I could easily see stopped having flat CL timings above that speed; they would be eg CL 15-18-18-18 instead of a flat CL15. There were some faster modules with flat CL timings, but they were much more expensive. Since I think I care more about latency than slight bandwidth increases, I decided to stick with the inexpensive option that gave me flat latency.

Noctua NH-U12 CPU cooler
I quite liked the Noctua cooler in my work machine, so I just got the general version of it. I've been quite happy on my work machine not just with how well the Noctua cooler works, but also how quiet it is with the CPU under heavy load (and in fact it seems quite difficult to push the CPU hard enough that the Noctua's fan has to run very fast, which of course helps keep any noise down).

In short: real (and large-ish) CPU coolers are a lot better than the old stock Intel CPU coolers. I suppose this is not surprising.

(The Noctua is not inexpensive, but I'm willing to pay for quality and long term reliability.)

EVGA SuperNova G3 550W PSU
As with my work machine, the commentary on my original plans pushed me to getting a better PSU. Since I liked this in the work machine, I just got it again for the home one. It's an amusing degree of overkill for the actual measured power draw of either machine, but I don't really care about that.

(For my own future reference: always use the PSU screws that come with the PSU, not the PSU screws that may come with the case.)

Fractal Design Define R5 case
I got this in white this time around (the work version is black). The story about the colour shift is that we recently built a new Ryzen based machine for one of my co-workers and basically duplicated my work machine for the parts list, except his case is white because he didn't care and it was cheaper and in stock at the time. When his case came in and I got a chance to see it in person, I decided that maybe I liked the white version better than the black one and in the end my vacillation settled on the white one.

(When I pulled the trigger on buying the hardware, the two case colours were the same price (and both in stock). So it goes.)

LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer
I gave in to an emotional temptation beyond the scope of this entry and got an optical drive, despite what I'd written earlier. But I haven't actually installed it in the case; it's apparently enough that I could if I wanted to.

(It helps that powering the drive would be somewhat awkward, because the PSU doesn't come with SATA modular cables that are long enough or have enough plugs on them.)

I'm running the RAM at full speed by activating its XMP profile in the BIOS, which was a pleasant one-click option (without that it came up at a listed 2133 Mhz). There didn't seem to be a one-click option for 'run this at 2666 MHz with the best timings it supports', so I didn't bother trying to set that up by hand. The result appears stable and the BIOS at least claims that the CPU is still running at its official normal speed rating.

(Apparently it's common for Intel motherboards to default to running DDR4 RAM at 2133 MHz for maximum compatibility or something.)

In general I'm quite happy with this new machine. It's not perfect, but nothing seems to be under Linux, but everything works, it's pretty nice, and it's surprisingly fast. Honestly, it feels good simply to have a modern machine, especially one where I can't clearly hear the difference between an idle machine and one under CPU load.

(There's still a little bit of noise increase under full load, but it's pretty subtle and I have to really pay attention in a quiet environment to hear it. On my old machine, the stock Intel CPU cooler spinning up created a clearly audible difference in noise that I could hear over, eg, my typing. The old machine might have been improved by redoing the thermal paste, but my old work machine, with the redone paste, still had the same sort of audibility under load.)

After my experiences with UEFI on my work machine, I didn't try to switch from BIOS booting to UEFI on this one either (contrary to earlier plans for this). The two machines probably have somewhat different BIOSes (although their GUIs look very similar), but I didn't feel like taking the chance and I've wound up feeling that BIOS boot is better if you're using a mirrored root filesystem (which I am), fundamentally due to an unfortunate Linux (or Fedora) GRUB2 configuration choice.

PS: Given my experiences with Ryzen on my new work machine (eg, and), I wound up with absolutely no interest in going with a Ryzen home machine. This turned out to be a good choice in general, but that's another entry.

(The short version is on Twitter.)


Comments on this page:

By john at 2018-04-01 22:24:07:

I'm surprised you'd build a workstation in 2018. Pretty much everyone has moved on from this other than gamer kiddies.

Workstations are a commodity.

By cks at 2018-04-02 00:43:31:

I'm picky and I wanted specific attributes for my desktop. It was simpler to specify the parts myself (and assemble the results) rather than try to pick through vendors offering various pre-built desktop systems, try to decode what was really in them, and figure out which ones were trustworthy. For bonus points I'm in Canada and most of the Linux-friendly vendors are in the US, which adds various points of friction.

(Also, I think that my specific configuration desires are unusual, in that I think most people putting together a desktop like this would also be specifying a fairly powerful graphics card.)

I did at one point look around to see if Dell had any desktops that would work, but I believe that the sticking point at the time was drive bays.

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