Why the University of Toronto can't just use Google Mail

April 17, 2007

A lot of people like Google Mail, and it's not hard to see why; they have the best webmail interface, offer lots of storage, and so on. So why not just cut to the chase and make our users happy by outsourcing our email to Google Mail?

The answer in a nutshell is that we'd like a Google Mail Appliance, but the university is not in any position to make Google Mail our email provider.

There's a bunch of pragmatic reasons why outsourcing email would be hard to set up: we'd need a contract, a service level agreement, various features (and lack of features like Google Ads), a way to manage user accounts ourselves, and so on. But none of those are the real problem, because we could overcome them with money and negotiation (assuming Google was sufficiently interested).

The real issue is that both morally and legally, the University can't hand physical control of its private and internal email over to a third party, especially a third party located in America. Apart from the moral issues, these days we actually have a specific legal requirement to keep people's personal information private and, as part of that, in our direct custody.

(Direct custody is important because it is the only way that we can assert with a straight face that we even have a chance of knowing who everyone is who has access to the data.)

No service level agreement can fix this for two reasons. First, no SLA can overrule an American court order. And second, all that an SLA would do even in theory is let us collect some amount of money from Google, and money is often a poor compensation for a privacy breach.

(You might think that the court order issue is a small bagatelle. Think again; the University has a significant number of international students, and we take the associated issues quite seriously.)

A Google Mail Appliance wouldn't have these problems; Google would just be supplying the software (and the physical machine), and the email would stay under our physical and legal custody, in our machine room.


Comments on this page:

From 152.14.80.153 at 2007-04-23 12:12:53:

I agree with everything you said. I wasn't really suggesting to use gmail for students, just saying it's really nice. Also, I think it would make a university look weak if they can't run their own mail service. One thing that would be awesome about gmail is if I could somehow access it with pine.. any ideas? (I guess I could have it fetch and leave it one the server)

By cks at 2007-04-23 16:43:37:

I believe both Google and pine support POP3, although how well they cooperate is anyone's guess. (It seems peculiar to adopt GMail and then throw away the often-praised interface, but maybe that's just me.)

From 86.138.106.172 at 2009-11-11 15:54:53:

And second, all that an SLA would do even in theory is let us collect some amount of money from Google, and money is often a poor compensation for a privacy breach.

So when the university is culpable for a privacy breach they will compensate me handsomely?

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