Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad Commentshttps://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad?atomcommentsDWiki2010-01-20T16:46:01ZRecent comments in Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad.From 68.81.141.96 on /blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBadtag:CSpace:blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad:3cd152a6e4e26fbc0b6ce8a4d4d3ea3454ca4090From 68.81.141.96<div class="wikitext"><p>The answer would seem to be "most of it." SXCE is dead. LiveUpgrade has been axed. IPS is the way forward. No reason to not have Crossbow et al in GA. It may not be exactly the same, but it's going to be damn close.</p>
</div>2010-01-20T16:46:01ZBy Chris Siebenmann on /blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBadtag:CSpace:blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad:219ecaa2e00bfb7e3730286b6fc68bda85a9084eChris Siebenmann<div class="wikitext"><p>OpenSolaris isn't interesting until it turns into Solaris proper (or
perhaps stages a great escape from Sun to become a real open source
project, but I'm not holding my breath on that one). At this point, no
one has any idea what OpenSolaris changes will make it into Solaris 11.</p>
</div>2010-01-19T06:11:21ZFrom 66.92.52.243 on /blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBadtag:CSpace:blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad:ebb6f99580a2135f2dd341fa02a9eaddc778ef22From 66.92.52.243<div class="wikitext"><p>I take it you haven't looked at OpenSolaris in the last two years? GNU tools are at the front of PATH by default. A lot of GNU compat changes have gone into the Solaris tools.</p>
</div>2010-01-19T05:54:23ZBy Chris Siebenmann on /blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBadtag:CSpace:blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad:b7829b3235f6b992b1ceeb9f4b3cddcb6cffa853Chris Siebenmann<div class="wikitext"><p>I have two issues with things like FreeBSD ports for this stuff. First,
they don't seem to be installed all that often (the two FreeBSD machines
I have easy access to don't have any of these things, although they do
have <code>jot</code> in /usr/bin). Second, because they're optional you can't
really use these programs in shell scripts that you want to be portable
over even FreeBSD installations; this is important to me because one of
the reasons I want things like <code>stat</code> is to make shell scripts easier
to write.</p>
</div>2010-01-19T05:14:47ZFrom 128.100.102.5 on /blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBadtag:CSpace:blog/unix/UnixFossilizationBad:d20ef50d48ad1e104568565da94626bb5d682f5dFrom 128.100.102.5<div class="wikitext"><p>I think you've overlooked the purpose of the ports tree in FreeBSD, at least. The core tools (/bin, /usr, ....etc) are not expected to change unless there's an extremely good reason. New tools or new versions of old tools are often available via the ports tree. I'm guessing that it's rare to see a FreeBSD system running without any tools from the ports tree.</p>
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